Lisa, shared values make people feel solidaric with each other. Despite their laicist government, experience shows many Turks hold different values than Europeans (I'm saying this without judging these values). Therefore, like many Europeans (I'm not from Winnipeg, BTW), I can't identify myself with Turks in the same manner as with other Europeans, which is the basis for joint policies or even social systems. As I'm not saying that either people's values are inferior, just different, I don't that's being racist. With a possible deportation/forceful expulsion of Palestinians, I was referring to the so-called "transfer solution", which to my understanding was being discussed by some right wing Israelis like Rehavam Zeevi, rational enough to be a government minister before he was killed. No, I can't quite conceive Israelis and Palestinians living in peace among each other either (though I know some "Israeli Arabs" who are integrated fairly well into the Israeli society). But in the long run, I think both sides won't have a choice but to find a way to live together. For Israel, it's a question of security. Despite all impressive achievements, the Israeli economy is too small to maintain a full-scale defence industry itself, and with the current trend in oil consumption the world's major powers may soon be competing for influence in the oil-rich Arab countries, and supplies of the latest weapons systems could potentially challenge Israel's current military supremacy in the region. A peace that's not just a piece of paper signed by some Palestinian politician bought by corrupted Western aid money, but that is working for the Palestinian refugees too, is the best guarantee of existence for Israel. Regards! (please excuse my staying anonymous -- I just don't want anything I ever typed being googled up in 50 years time)