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Re: Jill's article in Haaretz
by
Rob
Lisa, help me out here. I'm watching all of this from a far distance - Australia, to be precise - so maybe I have this all wrong. But how can you be at the one time pro-Israel and anti-Zionist? Israel exists (does it not?) by virtue of Zionism - the ancient longing of the Jews for a safe homeland.
I've read and combated with lots of people around the blogosophere who say they are not anti-Semitic, only anti-Zionist. My question to them - seldom answered - has been: well, as an anti-Zionist, you cannot accept the legitimacy of the Jewish state, and aspire to its disestablishment. True or false?
Some people, only a few, will come right out and say, yep, that's right, Israel shouldn't be there, maybe it should be in New York. Most just prevaricate.
I mean, you can oppose the settlements in the occupied territories, you can oppose the actual occupation of the occupied territories, you can oppose targeted asssassinations, you can have grave doubts about the current offensive in Gaza (most of these are true in my own case) - but you can't gloss that opposition as 'anti-Zionist'. It just means you disagree with the government's policies.
You can oppose various policies of the current and past Israeli governments on humanitarian grounds, on pacifistic grounds, on anti-colonial grounds, on religious grounds, on human rights and common decency grounds. But you can't, as it seems to me, do it on anti-Zionist grounds, because such denies the right of Israel to exist.
Or does Zionism mean something completely different to what I think it means?
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