1. The Lions Led by Donkeys War? 2. Herzl probably wouldn't be too surprised. In Ireland, we are only now coming to the end of the conflict unleashed by the War of Independence and that was 80+ years ago. Lengthy conflicts have quite often followed the birth of new post-colonial states after WWII. There are plenty of simmering conflicts going on among the successor states to the Soviet Union too: think Armenia/Azerbaijan, all the breakaway bits of Georgia etc. Israel's situation is not *that* unusual. best regards from Buenos Aires